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View of contacts with large number of rows

Hi,

I have a table (Contacts) with more than 600k rows. Every time when I open the table it takes quite a while to see the results. I would be gratefull if you could recomend a high perfomance solution for this issue. The first thing that comes in mind - to split the "all" view for several views ("A", "B", "C",...)   based on the first character in lastname of the person.I tried, but the performance is still poor. Are there other solutions? 

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    • szormpas
    • 7 mths ago
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    Hi EriΚ,

    I've been trying to find a solution to a similar problem that has to do with managing a large amount of data, and I'm trying different approaches. I believe that creating a custom HTML table is a better option than using the default Ninox tables, as I will explain soon in the following post:

    HTML Pivot Table

      • erik
      • 7 mths ago
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       Thank you so much for your feedback. The solution you suggest is great, but unfortunately I don't know much about html coding. I guess I need time to learn html. It definitely goes beyond the lowcode approach ). I will certainly try to apply your solution in the future, as I realized from your posts that the performance increases significantly.

    • Fred
    • 7 mths ago
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    I found that formulas can slow down display time.

    Another way is to use a Dashboard to interact with your data. You are probably filtering your table, so why not setup a Dashboard where you are typing/selecting your filter parameters and then only show those that match.

      • erik
      • 7 mths ago
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       Thanks a lot for your feedback. I will try to use "Pages" for different users/roles. Indeed, viewing all rows is not necessary. I will try to make the views desired by the users using preconfigured filters.

    • Mel_Charles
    • 7 mths ago
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     So - I have a table that has currently grown to over 900k records and what I have learned is this :-

    Do I need to load all the records all of the time? No

    Do I want to keep all, these records within 1 table? - definitely

    Thus would creating a dashboard with views or simply having various prefixed table views with filters give me what I require and quickly enough. Either works okay ….

    Based on me being on the web version, the thing to bear in mind is that the data is not local and there has to be a trade off re the search requests and resorting you want to do to displaying at my end - are you going to filter back and forth from the Nixox server or do you want to to do all the processing at the server end before displaying the results.

    I do mine by using “ do as server” for table forms that have an embedded table views on them and I restrict  the fields to only those that I need to return to view as much data as I need and with only essential formulas fields etc.

    just this command alone works wonders on large data sets with select commands.
    I keep my All records table as a backup but also use pre filtered table views for common searches ie all records with purchase in last 12 months etc.

    if you have other users that will process/access the data then you probably might want to build a  dashboard with user restrictions to stop them selecting all data in one go.

    Ninox claim that all fields are indexed (optimised) for their servers etc. However you will also see that in edit mode you can set a field to indexed or not - I  intend to Not index any field that is not crucial to be searched on and also turn off global searching too on my large data tables.

    Also if you call All of the table then usually it is only that first return of data that takes the time (of course!) and any other request is then called from that cached data).

    I don’t do this now because I work a different way but what I used to do was..

    add the the open table command to the db start up script so this table was loaded and displayed at the start of my working day. Thus any searches were more or less a few seconds rather than a minute plus !
    I accept this adds a couple of mins to the starting of the DB but it all depends on how important to you it is to have  the “all”  table view showing all records ….

     

     

      • erik
      • 7 mths ago
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       Thank you very much for your detailed reply. It is very useful for beginners. I will try to implement all your tips. 

    • erik
    • 7 mths ago
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    Thank you guys. Appreciate your help and insights. One more thing related to perfomance: I am planning to deploy onpremise version, any ideas about server parameters (VPS vs dedicated), cores, RAM, etc?  OS (Windows Server or Linux)? I so minimum requirements on ninox manual, but what about actual parameters for database with tables with up to 20mio rows?

      • Mel_Charles
      • 7 mths ago
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       Pass - sorry no experience with on premise server re Ninox.

      There are several users on the forum that are using the on premise version so I’m sure someone will be able to help you.

      • Fred
      • 7 mths ago
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      I know that Nioxus offers Private cloud hosting services. They say it cost the same to go through them plus Nioxus does the hosting. I don't know anymore than that, but if you want a private instance but without the hosting headache this might be an option.

      You can email support@nioxus.com to have someone get in touch with you.

    • erik
    • 7 mths ago
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    Thanks a lot, guys. I have to host in my country due to local regulations related to personal data. 

      • terri.1
      • 7 mths ago
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      Nioxus at www.nioxus.com can help you set your private server in any country that you need. Reach out to support@nioxus.com. Have a good weekend.

      • erik
      • 7 mths ago
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       Thanks for your kind advice. Already done, might be later  

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