Rafael Didn’t ninox top management change about a year or so ago?  Might be related to V4’s degree of difference from V3.  Perhaps the Board directed ninox to get away from its aging development tools and adopt more modern approaches, including features such as AI-engine integration.  Could also be that the ninox subscribers, at least the bigger ones with hundreds maybe thousands of licenses, could be complaining about the current product and pushing demand to V4 appearance and features.  That would matter to top management, especially if accompanied by lesser usage, dropped licenses, and so on.

Just surmising here, no inside knowledge of any of the goings-on within ninox.  I’m as stunned as everyone at the new product and the company’s enthusiasm for it.  Reminds me of Apple’s tenacity about Liquid Glass, a UI exactly no one wanted, nor asked for, nor seems to like much.  So what does Apple do?  Trench in harder.

Mel Charles 

I've seen it confirmed in the community and official forums that Ninox 4 (table) still doesn't have feature parity with Ninox 3, so I wouldn't expect an immediate replacement. According to one community member, it's still about a year o more out before both versions match in features and stability.

The automatic 3→4 (table) migration tool doesn't yet exist in a solid form. It's not even settled how migration would be handled per database/workspace instead of per whole account — that's an active complaint from owners managing dozens of workspaces, and I see it as a critical point before making the jump.

There are basic questions, like whether the Mac or Android app will work without the team feature (local databases, no cloud), that remain officially unanswered. Ninox itself admits they're still deep in development and can't confirm those details yet.

One historical problem from v3 that v4 (table) likely inherits: the form editor is still rigid, without a truly free pixel-perfect design. You have to "trick" the layout with invisible spaces and line breaks to position elements where you want them.

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Rafael I don't need to panic on this but am starting to discover other alternative options re software out there.

Mel Charles 

in the same way 👍

John Schaffer In the cold light of day - I have look at a lot of alternatives - Airtable/Sea tables. LibreOffice base etc- Rajic. but most of the products out ther are sexed up Excel display types and don't support really presentable free flow designed User input forms (Yeah i know Ninox have fixed point limits and Libre base does too but to be truly multiuser I nned to slit the base and use SQL back end. etc. Off the shelf software like Zigaflow / Filemaker etc simply work out way to expensive for the amount of users/ records I hold (now close to 990k records in just one table)

Regarding the record limit on Ninox I am still on the old cloud "Prof version" which seems to have no limit of records - However I suspect this will die once the change to V4 comes about.

Techically I could move to the new version for users (Teams ) now which would give me 5gb each per use instead of 2gb but then the reocords are capped at 50k per user (or shared across the system).

or go for Buisness whcih gives 10gb each and 250k records

I don't really nned to hold the one datatables with the 990+ records in Ninox as it is used as a feed table now (i used it for mailing before but not link records etc/history to Email octopus and use tages for customer spend type - So I could hold this in Good old Excel.

So all I as John Schaffer  said one has to consider what is in front of one carefully - and he is dead right I can't afford to keep jumping ship as my primary goal is to keep acquiring customers and generate additional sales - which we are ding very successfully but I can't get distracted.

Also I want/need to keep our system simple as possible. co at the need of the day it is not broken (yet!)

Mel Charles Aaah, you made me (yes, genuinely forced me) to dust off and put back on my consulting hat.  So here goes with my vast (well, okay, zero) knowledge of your business from a few posts in this thread.

TL;DR - get out of software development and focus on building your business.

I say this because you’ve said things like: "my primary goal is to keep acquiring customers and generate additional sales - which we are ding very successfully.”  And: “I think my time has come to change ! Anyway my wife moans at me for spending night after night coding up forms and adding scripts.”  Also: "i have to ask "what am I" first and foremost I have and need to run my business."

So recognize your decision, bite the bullet, and run it.  And hire out the albeit fun stuff of coding.  Or, wild thought here, do the reverse: hire someone to build/run the business and you become the tech arm.  You will fight the costs, but presumably love the impacts.  And the costs instill discipline just as they do for all other aspects of the business.  But if your business is growing, and that growth presumably becoming evermore profitable, and assuming that growth is due to your personal leadership, then that’s where you need to be.

I understand working with ninox/others may offer relaxation, enjoyment, and practicality when applied to your own business.  Consider alternative hobbies.  Take up stamp collecting, butterfly watching, something you and your wife can do together, yoga, climb the Eiger, whatever, but don’t take up very precious "off-duty" time executing another component of your business.  Mental health, burn-out, divorce, are all real things few of us are immune to.

I sincerely wish you the very best, and do regret not being able to definitely answer a single of your ninox questions.

Taking the hat off now, placing it back on the shelf for, oh say, forever.  Thanks for the memories.