v3.10 Enterprise only?

Fred
updated 7 mths ago
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I'm sure some of you have gotten the email to join the 3.10 webinar. Sadly, I saw this in the email:

To make the most of these features, consider upgrading to the Enterprise plan from Ninox.

I guess we will have to wait and see what they say on Oct 4th.

I can really use:

Modularity

With Modularity, users can establish relationships between two different databases, and link tables from distinct databases within a single workspace.

Pages sound nice too.

- Mel_Charles
- 7 mths ago
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Yes Fred I think this will probably happen as Ninox have made no secret that they "intended" to release features on a basis of the more you pay the more features you will get.

Shame cos I agree Modukarity wuld be great
- Alan_Cooke
- 7 mths ago
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I am interested in going private cloud but don't have need for 10 licences. I am aware of the Nioxus offer but I am wondering what can be done in the way of hiring a server or even setting one up for oneself. Bit off topic I know but I suspect others may be wondering how best to take advantage of 3.10.

I am in no way IT savvy so do not know what is involved. Any advice, help would be appreciated. It would be for the DB I currently use in my job but we have no need at present for 10 licences.

Thanks
- Fred
  
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  Well the nice thing about Nioxus' offer is that you don't have to manage the server like you would have to do if you ran your own (real or virtual). Once you own your own server then there are software upgrades, failing parts, Ninox upgrades, security setup, backup, disaster recovery, etc.
  
  I have no idea what Ninox specs out as the recommended server setup, but looked into a basic setup in Azure (Microsoft's cloud environment) and saw that a basic 2CPU, 16GB RAM, 1 -128 GB SSD data drive (I think a OS drive is included) is about $160/mon.
  
  You could spend about $2,000 on a physical server then set it up yourself. Then you would have to figure out how to make if visible outside your network so you can use it anywhere. You also now have to worry about backup, and disaster recovery.
  
  If you are not IT savvy then I would not recommend setting up your own server.
- Mel_Charles
  
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  Obviously no one here can tell you what to do but I have come at this from the other direction. My core production/database system/Studio design & accounts and misc software had been served based for some 20 + years. Covid was just the catalyst I needed to dump all the servers we had and take full advantage of offering staff the chance to continue to work from home and let our additional office suite go when the lease ran out.
  
  I was very unsure at first but went totally cloud for every thing! Staff simply link into factory works and work with clients totally online.. No more reps and cars, no more visits and we never looked back.
  
  Alan you said it yourself. You are not tech savvy - You will end up paying additional services to IT support companies etc, so you might just as well put this onto the licences (to be fair I think they should offer a 5 user enterprise option tho) I could put many more staff online and still not have the IT billsl I used to have!
  
  Giving that cloud based stuff is housed on various servers, then you are also spreading the risk!. By and large those companies servers are backed up many times per day. The only extra I take is I have 2 dual raid NAS boxes and sweep a back up from production/design and accounts onto them once a week as extra - extra backup! Each user has a 4gb USb Drive to back up their machine locally.
  
  Down time since the start of covid? - Virtually Never! except for the odd internet connection issue cos of a staff member local wifi gone done (reboot usually fixed). Oh and just one users router died. Saved me many nights of head scratching !
  
  When on servers ? - Lost count of the number of issues in the last few years of server life. Software update issues was always the biggest issue. But boards gone down / Server died / Overheating/ Power cut caused restores to be done. Backups not worked. Tech support company not come out when supposed to. etc.......
  
  I would say if you already had servers etc in place and they still work for you then running Nixox in house might make sense.
  
  The only It task I have to worry about now is. Keeping my license agreements up to date. Make sure someone does not pull the plug out on the router to do the vacuuming whilst I'm working at home!
  
  Extra features in Enterprise versus Professional or Private cloud - Err Okay you win this one
- Fred
- 7 mths ago
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said:
The only extra I take is I have 2 dual raid NAS boxes and sweep a back up from production/design and accounts onto them once a week as extra - extra backup!

I like that idea. It is very tempting to rely on the cloud services to have backup but since the data is yours it is a good idea to have a copy that you can always access. In case of a disagreement between you and your cloud provider.
- Mel_Charles
  
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  Yes Fred Learnt this the hard way way back because of 2 instances
  
  The latest one "re cloud" was a couple of years ago when I once trialled a webshop suite. It crashed a few times and I noted that although it got rolled back, it kept being restored to the wrong point and thus some interim data was missing. Maybe the restore was coming from the wrong cloud server I don't know but the company was not very helpful - Fortunately, I had only spend about 3 weeks creating the system and it was a trial.
  
  But it taught me.
  
  Trust Nothing !
  
  To accept the premise that most cloud based software does have multiple servers that constantly copies data. But even a chain can go down (unlikely but .....).
  
  When i embark on a new cloud adventure. I test a couple of days then throughly test the backup system. by restored or asking for a restore point to be done (easy when in trial and no cost usually involved) altho to be fait fees are usually very small to request a particular restore point
  
  That even if step 1 and 2 work out - have somewhere to download everything - Just in case! As a matter of point to demonstrate this, even with Ninox - once a month I download all tables to csv. Just in case we fall out with each other and I then have a set of files that I can import into another DB/excel etc and carry on.
  
  Make sure I download all backups/manual backups to my Mac and off line raid drives
  
  Overkill? maybe
  
  The earlier - re backups themselves
  
  I remember one Christmas way back, we had a server that held every thing and we decided to upgrade a lot of software a brand new server with up to fully intergrated software. So the old system was backed (3 times) completely at close for Christmas. The new system had to be comp served prior to formatting the disk (3 days required to do this)
  
  So on day 3, I went into work only to find we had be raided and every thing had been nicked bar the box of backup tapes (yes TAPES!) - Another new server was rushed to us in and guess what? The new tape devices could not read tapes ! We were screwed and had to manually input over 5 years of trading data.!
  
  So with all my business now in the cloud - I BACKUP the BACKUPS! (it would be the same process if I had servers still!)
- Kim_Schacht
- 7 mths ago
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They would get more users if the make 3.10 available to the public cloud also. I know I would get the public cloud.
- Fred
- 7 mths ago
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Anyone going to the webinar? If so can you report back on what is said?
- Fred
- 6 mths ago
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Well us public cloud users get Pages.

But no modularity. :(

Now I have to decide if I want to switch all my dashboards over to Pages?

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